Episode 103: Kugels and Collards: The Southern Jewish Table

Food can be a vehicle for telling stories, connecting with people, and understanding our history—including the uncomfortable parts. In this episode of Can We Talk?, Jen Richler heads to Charleston, South Carolina to learn about Southern Jewish history through the lens of food. Over a home-cooked meal, Jen talks with Rachel Gordin Barnett and Lyssa Kligman Harvey, co-authors of the new book Kugels & Collards: Stories of Food, Family, and Tradition in Jewish South Carolina. She also talks with Dale Rosengarten, a scholar of Southern Jewish history, and Kim Cliett Long, a scholar whose rich family story weaves together Jewish and African American identities.  

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Released November 21, 2023
  • Collage of Kugels & Collards Book Cover and Rachel/Lyssa

    Cover of Kugels & Collards and its co-authors, Lyssa Kligman Harvey (left) and Rachel Gordin Barnett.  

  • Book cover that says Kugels & Collards: Stories of Food, Family, and Tradition in Jewish South Carolina with the names of the authors, Rachel Gordin Barnett and Lyssa Kligman Harvey

    Cover of Kugels & Collards: Stories of Food, Family, and Tradition in Jewish South Carolina. 

  • Two women standing in a kitchen, one holding a strainer with noodles and the other a strainer with greens

    Rachel Gordin Barnett, left, and Lyssa Kligman Harvey, co-authors of Kugels & Collards. 

  • Woman standing holding large box, library shelves in background

    Dale Rosengarten

  • Black woman with hair in updo

    Kim Cliett Long, contributor to Kugels & Collards.

  • Black and white photo of Black woman sitting with grandchildren on either side of her

    Ezella Hollomon with her first two great grandchildren, Kim Yvette Cliett Long and Kerry DeJuan Butts. Reprinted with permission from Kugels & Collards by Rachel Gordin Barnett and Lyssa Kligman Harvey. 

  • Ezella's Kosher Collards Recipe

    Recipe reprinted with permission from Kugels & Collards: Stories of Food, Family, and Tradition in Jewish South Carolina by Rachel Gordin Barnett and Lyssa Kligman Harvey. 

  • Collage of Kugels & Collards Book Cover and Rachel/Lyssa
  • Book cover that says Kugels & Collards: Stories of Food, Family, and Tradition in Jewish South Carolina with the names of the authors, Rachel Gordin Barnett and Lyssa Kligman Harvey
  • Two women standing in a kitchen, one holding a strainer with noodles and the other a strainer with greens
  • Woman standing holding large box, library shelves in background
  • Black woman with hair in updo
  • Black and white photo of Black woman sitting with grandchildren on either side of her
  • Ezella's Kosher Collards Recipe

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Jewish Women's Archive. "Episode 103: Kugels and Collards: The Southern Jewish Table." (Viewed on October 5, 2026) <https://jwa.org/podcasts/canwetalk/episode-103-kugels-collards-southern-jewish-table>.